If you plan on shooting several rounds before cleaning the barrel, paperpatched black powder cartridges lack sufficient lube to keep the powder fouling soft. I still have several boxes of paper patch black powder loads that he loaded for me. If you have a question that isnt answered in our bullet information, resources, or faq pages, send an email or give a call. The only rule is that black powder loads cannot include any air space between powder and bullet.
He came to me complaining about having issues with accuracy at 100yds with the gun. Whether you have a sharps, rollingblock, or a hawkin, all can be loaded using the paper patch method. I never did get to shoot them before i sold the gun. Shop our selection of black powder for sale here at. On a calm day we will generally hold the 9 ring on the long range target. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Civility in all postings, and respect for your fellow shooters are the primary expectations of all members. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers. We are a custom shop specializing in creating premium, hand cast bullets for all handloaders including recreational and competitive shooters. Thereafter it was loaded with 100 grains of black powder and the same 500 grain projectile.
I want to shoot 540 grain paper patch bullets with black powder. Muzzleloader accuracy how to get tack driver accuracy from. My target load es figures cant be touched by any smokeless load. We can ship two 25 pound shipments per person or address per day. The paper kept the soft bullet from leading and formed a seal. Cowboy action calibers such as 4440, 45 colt and 44 special are also covered, as well as 10, 12 and 20 gauge shotshells. He is telling me a 75yds that the gun will keep roughly a 3 group consistently but going out to 100yds the shots are all over the place and. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some black powder shooters still roll their own paper patched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. Sharps rifle had all the bells and whistles and in 45 110.
Black powder, goex black powder, swiss black powder and schuetzen black powder. Sharps 45 110 paper patch chamber buffalo rifle using blackpowder. The obvious advantages of a bullets patched to bore diameter are that they will more easily chamber in a fouled rifle, and they can be seated farther out of the case allowing. I have used a cooking parchment paper that has some drawbacks but also some advantages. Buffalo arms used to carry all the needed supplies, a friend of mine was a diehard black powder shooter, didnt own a modern firearm. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paperpatched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. Complete with original 530 grain mold and 451 sizer. These guys are telling you right about experimenting with loads, bullets, lubes and maybe paper patching. Typically lower than modern sd figures for a 10 shoot string. Reloading for the 45 70 and 45 120 rifles and smokeless powder. You will be able to seat them out further than you can with traditional straightsided bullet designs. You can even use your normal black powder lube to grease the paper patch, if it is soft enough to apply.
Another site with a couple of areas dedicated to black powder is this one. The thinner paper i use is a stockpile of eaton airmail paper. He and rick mulhern were the ones who inspired me to get into shooting the. Loads when poor muzzleloader accuracy is due to your load, it can most often be blamed on a magnum 150 grain powder charge.
Any more capacity then that doesnt seem to work with smokeless. The obvious advantages of a bullets patched to bore diameter are that they will more easily chamber in a fouled rifle, and they can be seated farther out of the case allowing for more powder capacity. Mar 15, 2011 i will go the black powder rout eventually but for now to save money bp is expensive and the extra case cleaning requirements for black powder im trying to more or less duplicate the ballistics of a black powder load while using one of the smokeless rifle powders i have on hand. Nov 21, 2005 i use beinfang 360 graphics paper for my thick paper it is expensive as paper goes, but a little goes a long way. Im not much on the older black powder stuff but he is using 80g of fff and a 425gr powerbelt projo.
Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. New black powder announced from goex patching paper accurate molds, llc. Ppbs were easy to make by the frontiersman, requiring nothing but a skillet, pig lead, patching paper and a mould. Since i shoot pp bullets, i do not use any other cards or wads in the load, except a paper wad to compress the powder. Also, i like shooting black powder, and at last count, have put over 2 tons of lead downrange shooting bp firearms. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. Black powder paper patching if this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Jun 24, 2017 ive read that some guys even paper patch jacketed bullets in over bore cartridges to keep down on copper fouling. You could also get this case loaded with 95, 100, and 105 grains of black powder. Kenny has posted his wad stack a number of times, bu its really set up that way for paper patching his deep seated bore diameter bullets. I use beinfang 360 graphics paper for my thick paper it is expensive as paper goes, but a little goes a long way. Another site with a couple of areas dedicated to black. Nov 22, 2015 walt is a first time black powder cartridge rifle shooter and hits a 10 inch bullseye at 410 yards shooting a c. This is the place to discuss your duplex and smokeless loads for your black powder guns.
The shots with those two types of ammunition were chronographed and best group was shot at 50 yards with the black powder loads but more about that in just a moment. I will go the black powder rout eventually but for now to save money bp is expensive and the extra case cleaning requirements for black powder im trying to more or less duplicate the ballistics of a black powder load. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. Length is 314 to hold up to 120 grains of black powder. Have a coworker with a reproduction sharps rifle made by uberti.
Mould info would be helpful too as i am sure some of yall have been there done that. Our delivered price is less then our competitors even to the east coast, check it out and compare. I went to the byers range to see if i could hit paper with a black powder load and a vernier sight. It is no longer made but if you can find a substitute, you may like it.
Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball. I have a pedersoli rb in 4570 with the massive octagonal 30 barrel and it seems best with the 535 grs postel over 73 grs 1. The original rounds were paper patched black powder cartridges. You can even use your normal black powder lube to grease the paper patch, if it is soft enough to apply easily and is not mineral. A seasoned shooter will beat us handily, but we can usually impress the. The paper patch bullet is from montana precision swaging and it has a wicked cutting edge or wad cutter type shoulder, which leaves pronounced full caliber holes in paper targets. The 45 70 government cartridge was used by the us army from 1873 and was the most popular sharps calibre after 1876. The load i used on this hunt and trust in this rifle is my favorite, a 500 gr. A look at the names of the most matchaccurate black powder rifle cartridges in history will give you a hint.
Ive been shooting paper patch bullets for a long time and find that milk cartons make good wad material and spg lube wad of about. This is the general discussion area for the forums at. I have fouled out on hot, dry days using a blow tube. Black powder cartridge news published quarterly spring, summer. Just ignore the security warning after clicking on the link. I had worked up loads with a postell 545grain bullet.
I get the cork from the fleet farm store, and punch out the wads myself. Untold thousands of ppbs were made by the campfires during the 1880s. The paper patch bullet is from montana precision swaging and it has a wicked cutting edge or wad cutter type shoulder, which leaves. Heres a good resource about loading bpcr plus theres a bunch of detailed.
In addition, black powder cartridges are well covered with the help of mike venturino. We go over a few more basics in our paper patching discussion. I have been loading both of these rifles with black powder and i am kind of getting away from the black powder except for my muzzleloaders i am going to be experimenting with xmp5744 powdermy question for you is when using this powder or any other for that matter,is a good crimp required for accuracy or notrolled or taper crimp. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder, black powder substitute, or smokeless powder, and would like more of an. Jun 01, 2017 starline brass fire formed in a grease groove rolling block chamber cleaned, size checked, primed.
The search is on for the axles where the wheels go. I started wiping after each shot with arsenal patches and steve rhodes wiping solution. Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. You can even use your normal black powder lube to grease the paper patch, if it is soft enough to apply easily and is not mineral oil based. Sharps 45110 paper patch buffalo rifle bullseye at 410. Casting, swaging, paper patching, and lube cookies. Many people prefer it to the smooth ogive type of bullet because the shoulder helps hold the paper patch from sliding back, if you overlap the edge slightly and use your thumbnail to crimp the edge of the paper over the shoulder. He is looking at paper patching orand wiping every shot. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. There are also hundreds of pressure tested black powder cartridge loads for such calibers as the 4590, 45100, 45110 and 45120. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. I have been shooting cowboy action for a while and i got my quiqley. Muzzleloader accuracy how to get tack driver accuracy.
Paper patching is neat, and what i like to shoot, but its another layer of load developement youll have to learn. I was satisfied to have shot the creedmoor sharps at a creedmoorstyle match so i brought my shiloh sharps. You have to do everything that a modern caliber requires. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. Please call us 208 2636953 if you would like to place this item on back order. Reloading for the 4570 and 45120 rifles and smokeless powder. I remember that hes used a couple of different setups. Up until january of 1977 this case was loaded with 90 grains of black powder and a 500grain paper patched slug. Shop our selection of black powder for sale here at buffalo arms co. Shiloh sharps rifle question general rifles and shotguns. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. So, armed with estimated sight settings and loads i had never shot past 500 yards, i went to the byers range to see if i could hit paper with a black powder load and a vernier sight. The first number is 45 caliber, the second is the powder charge.
Anyone who appreciates and enjoys the classic single shot rifles of the late 1800 period is welcome to take part here. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with an odd caliber barrel. I am thinking of ordering a custom mould for something like you show, but with just a little more meplat for hunting. I suggest grease groove first, then work into pp loads. Sharps rifle had all the bells and whistles and in 45110. There is no major disadvantage to the shouldered or swc style of bullet for short to medium range 100300 yards. When i got my shiloh sharps in 45 110, he was dying to load for it. My first long range and mid range bpc target match black. The problem is i am having a hard time finding reloading data and info for the 45110.
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